@TheAllMemeingEye Isn’t this trivially true and necessary for eg wakeword detection? See Apple whitepaper on Hey Siri: https://machinelearning.apple.com/research/hey-siri

I suggest rename this to “…for the purpose of advertising, personalization, or surveillance”

@KimberlyWilberLIgt I suppose I mean even when you don't have the phone explicitly set to do that

@BrunoParga Lol. Seems very unlike his writing style and "voice", but maybe he's just really good at masking it.

@Gritty This one seems true.

@Elspeth how so?

@noaht2 The romance languages are descended from vulgar Latin.

@Elspeth which was descended from classical Latin. Descent is transitive ("Charles III is descended from George V.").

@noaht2 How do you define classical Latin, and what is your timeline?

@Elspeth @BrunoParga

@Elspeth it's only a conspiracy theory if it's something that currently is officially false but is secretly true and those in power are conspiring to cover it up, so it must be using the interpretation that means it's not already known to be true

@Vesperstelo Is this a conspiracy theory? I thought that was the mainstream official explanation?

@TheAllMemeingEye A lot of media sources still say she is completely biologically female, without any intersex conditions. Most notably, that is how it is written on her Wikipedia page.

@Vesperstelo Hmmm, ok I'll admit I'm not an expert so I might've been misled, I thought she had xy chromosomes but mostly female anatomy due to the y chromosome being unusually weak, this might be due to disagreement on definitions

@Vesperstelo many of the sources I'm finding say she "does not identify as intersex", which... gah.

@Vesperstelo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imane_Khelif

Khelif was born female,[5][6] and no medical evidence that she has XY chromosomes or elevated levels of testosterone has been published.[7][8][9]

hmm, I might be mistaken, would this mean that her facial structure is purely due to tail-end natural female variation then?

@TheAllMemeingEye That’s what they believe, yes.

Imane Khelif's own trainer says "there is a problem with her hormones, her chromosomes", which would seem to suggest that she has an intersex condition (in line with the previous reports that she failed a chromosomes test).

See https://archive.ph/Nrnw0 (It's in French, unfortunately)

The IBA have also said that Khelif has XY chromosomes according to the Washington Post: https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/olympics/2024/08/01/imane-khelif-algerian-boxer-gender-paris-olympics/ and the IBA also has a statement here https://www.iba.sport/news/iba-clarifies-the-facts-the-letter-to-the-ioc-regarding-two-ineligible-boxers-was-sent-and-acknowledged/ saying, of Khelif, "The laboratory detected results that didn’t match the eligibility criteria for IBA women’s events." and then also says that their criteria are "Definition of Women/Female/Girl = individual with chromosome XX".

@binarypigeon why does the Wikipedia page disagree? Would they likely accept an edit from you that includes this?

@noaht2 ROMANES EUNT DOMUS

@BrunoParga I think we already have proof of this one? so many whistleblowers have come forward, including my own mom. (my dad still denies everything though.)

@ZaneMiller see?! It's controversial, you yourself admit it!!

@ZaneMiller 你个?

@BrunoParga was thinking of 那个 but sure, that too