Geoffrey Hinton used to think AI risk wasn't that big of a deal, but then changed his mind. Yoshia Bengio recently wrote "How Rogue AIs may Arise". But Yann LeCun famously is skeptical and regularly dunks on AI risk arguments via his Twitter.
This question asks - Will Yann LeCun change his mind about AI risk before 2025?
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@agucova maybe we’ll see Yann slowly backpedaling on earlier positions until he effectively agreed with most AI risk arguments?
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My thoughts on this:
Yann is clearly very fixated on his current beliefs
Yann seems to be acting as a motivated reasoner
For someone like Yann to change their beliefs, it would probably take at least one radical change in his environment. Like maybe a major AIS-related accident?
I think my prior for such an event is quite low for 2025 (it's like ~15%) and for Yann to react to that is also not that high (~50%). Change from other causes (loved ones? being fired?) seems also pretty unlikely (< 5%), which leaves me with a pretty low estimate.
@AgustinCovarrubias Yes, I think nothing short of a significant AI-related accident would convince Yann. In a way, he is pretty similar to Eliezer: both are emotionally invested in their beliefs.
@AgustinCovarrubias Another option would be some sort of dangerous capability demonstration by i.e. ARC Evals. I find it likely that they might to some degree be personally targeting Yann LeCun as the audience of their demonstrations.
@hmys I just don’t think Bengio and Hinton have done any real work or lead a real team for years. Hinton especially is full of shit. LeCun is the only one doing real work in both Development and Production using the largest data firehose in history. He is the only one still “close to the metal” to use an imperfect metaphor.
@AgustinCovarrubias He has to broadly do what Hinton did. That is, change position towards accepting x-risk arguments in general and publicly advocate at least once for AI risk. I think it's ok if he's still skeptical of some stuff.