Just for the baseline, a less exotic AI application:

Suspected Chinese operatives have used images made by AI to mimic American voters online in an attempt to spread disinformation and provoke discussion on divisive political issues as the 2024 US election approaches, Microsoft analysts warned

what about defense contractors like anduril?

Very tentative yes as it may be used successfully but acknowledgment in such a timeframe is a very difficult criteria.

@Fivelidz i see, I copied this market for a longer timeframe

Doesn't steganography work pretty well without AI?

@NoaNabeshima It works, but not as well.

"Furthermore, we show that, among perfectly secure procedures, a procedure is maximally efficient if and only if it is induced by a minimum entropy coupling. These insights yield what are, to the best of our knowledge, the first steganography algorithms to achieve perfect security guarantees with non-trivial efficiency; additionally, these algorithms are highly scalable. To provide empirical validation, we compare a minimum entropy coupling-based approach to three modern baselines -- arithmetic coding, Meteor, and adaptive dynamic grouping -- using GPT-2, WaveRNN, and Image Transformer as communication channels. We find that the minimum entropy coupling-based approach achieves superior encoding efficiency, despite its stronger security constraints. In aggregate, these results suggest that it may be natural to view information-theoretic steganography through the lens of minimum entropy coupling."

https://arxiv.org/abs/2210.14889

@NoaNabeshima To do the decoding you need to have access to a computer. At that point, there must be better methods, right?

I would speculate that Steganography is passé because spies can just text using end to end encryption

@JonathanRay unless the message is leaked/stored/copied etc before the end to end is applied

@firstuserhere probably shouldn't even call that end to end but with WhatsApp etc, that's what it's marketed as

@firstuserhere well if you want to be extra paranoid you can do the encryption and decryption on an offline airgapped machine so that the online one only ever sees the ciphertext

@JonathanRay I think most sigint comes from intercepting unencrypted phone calls and texts. If everybody would just use whatsapp that would be an improvement to their opsec. You can't stop the intended recipient of any message from forwarding the plaintext to others, and that's all the whatsapp moderation system is.