Good to see this trading above human extinction.

@MartinRandall human extinction is more likely than this resolving yes 💀

I'll buy lots of YES at 18% if people are buyers

@Bayesian I put down a limit at 20!

The only way this will get solved is if there is a major earthquake and the city effectively shuts down.

Those betting Yes, even at low odds, what is the chain of events that gets us to solving this issue? Construction of new affordable housing? Intensive care for the chronic homeless? Or is it an uncertainty bet tailored around AI making us super wealthy?

More affordable housing, intensive care, and people moving somewhere else.

Also, some fuzzy hope that we will be able to solve these kinds of solvable problems, without exactly knowing how.

@CarsonGale I've personally and voluntarily participated in homeless outreach and support programs. I know that there are others out there who care deeply and are working hard on this issue. For example, look at Bonton Farms in Dallas.

@CarsonGale When a problem gets bad enough, sometimes that prompts governments to really focus on getting it right, in the way that isn't true of the third or fourth worst problem on their plates, which are allowed to fester.

@CarsonGale realizing that a big part of the problem is our broken economic system and fixing the money will have cascading effects across society

@CarsonGale 2040 has some risk of human extinction, so homelessness is not a humanitarian issue, and also some chance of sufficient basic income (in rich countries at least) such that people are only homeless voluntarily. Lots of uncertainty but 15% seems too low.

I found this graphic from a Mckinsey report in 2023 helpful in internalizing SF homelessness. There were 20k homeless in 2022, and 7.7k point-in-time estimate. By end of 2022, roughly 4.4k people were determined to be chronically homeless.

I find it much more plausible that non-chronic homelessness can be "solved" by 2040, though that seems mostly conditional on (i) a UBI of some kind getting implemented, or (ii) affordable-to-free housing options existing.

Chronic homelessness, however, seems very difficult to solve, as the only compelling solution I've seen is mandatory intensive care for those affected. This seems ideal, but also expensive and difficult to achieve politically.

lol SF spent 5 years designing a trashcan; solving problems is not what they do

@AlQuinn I don't think they are likely to solve it themselves

/Tripping/will-ai-wipe-out-humanity-before-th-6d1e8126d974

Does extinction count as a solution for this market?