Will any "DEI hire" pilot on a US airline make a mistake that results in at least one other person's death before 2028?
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Context: https://twitter.com/WallStreetSilv/status/1746712218274529690

They don't have to actually be a "DEI hire" in the sense of being incompetent, just perceived as potentially such. i.e. they must belong to some demographic that is generally perceived as receiving preferential hiring due to affirmative action type policies. e.g. women, blacks, native Americans, etc. (Asians don't count since they're generally discriminated against, not towards.)

The mistake needs to be in the context of the skill of flying a plane for their job. A car crash doesn't count, even if they were driving to their job at the airport. Running the plane into something while on the ground would count. Crashing a personal plane they were flying for fun does not count. If it's an intentional murder/suicide like flight 9525, that counts too.

Anyone with normal access to the controls counts as a "pilot". If it's unknown who made a specific error, default assumption is the captain.

  • Update 2025-02-26 (PST) (AI summary of creator comment): Additional DEI Hire Criteria for Native Hawaiians:

    • Native Hawaiian pilots are considered DEI hires only if they do not appear white.

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This market is unacceptably vague

@TiredCliche How so?

@IsaacKing Perceived as potentially such according to your vibes?

@TiredCliche I think social media will make it pretty obvious

@IsaacKing I disagree. Are Hawaiian pilots DEI hires?

Native Hawaiian? Yeah, if they don't look white.

@IsaacKing What about Catholics?

No

@IsaacKing Shia Muslim.

Some clarifying questions that have come up in my mind with the recent crash:

1. Would a minority pilot who was flying sufficiently well, but was crashed "into" still count as them making a mistake for the purpose of this market (e.g. if the pilots of AA5342 were "minority pilot"s would this resolve yes)?
2. Do both the captain and first officer count as pilot for the purpose of this question, and does it matter who had controls at the time of the incident in case of a mixed cockpit?
3. Would a minority pilot flying a personal plane, crashing into a commercial plane count?

@MarcusM Obviously not binding, but I’d argue that there’s two main plausible interpretations of the goal of the question. It would be nice to get some clarification on what underlying question is the actual target/will be resolved via.

either “can someone dunk on twitter that dei in aviation killed people” in which case it’d likely be 1 - yes because they should have dodged, 2 - either position would count and someone could argue they distracted the other or could have taken control and saved the plane if not a dei hire, 3 - yes, they were clearly at fault and they crashed because they were unqualified and that’s just more proof that “those people” don’t belong in airplanes

or “Is it possible to argue against a mildly steelmanned position of DEI in aviation by pointing to this disaster and saying ‘DEI killed people’” in which case the answers would probably be 1 - no, 2 - yes and no, the DEI individual would have to demonstrate some sort of insufficiency in cockpit resource management or have otherwise reasonably contributed to the crash, and I’m not sure how 3 would be answered in that case.

@MarcusM 1. is obviously not a mistake on their part. (Unless their lack of evasive action was clear negligence.) For 2. any pilot can count. For 3. no, like I said it must be in the context of their job as an airline pilot.

Would an Asian count as. DEI hire?

@JimAusman Do you think they could plausibly be accused of being such?

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