CBS said Vance won by 1%

CNN poll just said Vance won by 2%

During future debate prep Tim needs to put a dollar in a jar every time he says "look!".

As an undecided voter, personally felt Vance was better in that one

Walz wasn't bad either

@JaredAsh It was pretty close for me too. I think Walz did better on substance and Vance did better on style. I hope you don't mind me asking a related question, as I've not yet met an actual undecided voter. What are you looking for to make a decision?

@WilliamGunn I don't know honestly. I'm pretty split on the policies and issues represented by each party. Here's some thoughts

Immigration - Sure, a more secure border with immigration control is reasonable but making up supposedly malintent rumors about illegal immigrants won't help.

Climate change - Slightly lean democratic on this, an important real issue that requires addressing, but at the same time the economy and jobs are important and they should not be impacted in a significant sense by any policies surrounding climate change.

Abortion - This is tough. I think Vance and Walz hit the two sides on this. We want to offer women (especially in the cases of rape, incest, etc), this opportunity but we need to also offer and expand our resources to incentivize women to have families by offering them the support they need. We ideally need both.

Gun violence - I don't get this, I didn't see any points of contention here. Democrats strongly favor gun control, republicans somewhat favor gun control? I think background checks before buying guns would be common sense (but that's just my opinion)

they really ended with “and we’re never doing this shit again.”

I think there’s a good chance it’s 50:50