@AndrewEdstrom Does the pardon have to succeed legally, or does this resolve Yes in the attempt?

It resolves yes if he attempts to pardon himself. I will update the language accordingly.

It resolves yes if he attempts to pardon himself.

(Turns out I cannot update the language in the question, nor delete the second comment that I posted accidentally. Sorry!)

Ha! No worries, thanks for clarifying. BTW Typically people edit the comment to say [deleted] 🤷‍♂️

@Ernie Dying would count?

yes

If he holds office for a month before stopping holding office, what happens?

Confirming: this covers only the period after he assumes office?

@JaimeSantaCruz I assume this refers to *man-made climate change?

It's not possible to pardon oneself. Does this resolve to YES if he somehow attempts to?

It is legally possible for Trump to pardon himself for federal convictions if elected president.

However, he could not pardon his 34 state felony convictions. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/31/nyregion/donald-trump-pardon-himself.html#:~:text=Trump%20were%20to%20be%20elected,record%20in%20New%20York%20State.

@AndrewEdstrom No, it is not possible for someone to pardon themselves, of any conviction, under any jurisdiction.

Source? The NY Times article I linked clearly states that this is possible.

The current opinion of the Office of Legal Counsel is that one cannot pardon oneself. However, this has never been tested in court and as such is up for debate. https://www.justice.gov/olc/opinion/presidential-or-legislative-pardon-president

@SemioticRivalry How is it up for debate? Your own link says it is not possible.

@Snarflak an opinion by the Office of Legal Counsel is not legally binding. To solve the question it would have to go before the federal courts.

@SemioticRivalry But there is no such thing as a self-pardon. It's a paradox. Has there ever been a self-pardon in history?

The lack of relevant precedent is exactly the problem and why it would have to be actually tested legally to settle the question

@AlQuinn Or the lack of relevant precedent is because it's a nonsensical concept...

Anyway, if he attempts to pardon himself and fails, does this resolve YES or NO?

It's not nonsense if simply because the Constitution doesn't preclude a self-paardon:

"The President...shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment."

@AlQuinn "Grant" means giving something to another person. You cannot grant a pardon to yourself.

No explicit exclusion of self-pardon was required because the universal understanding of what it meant to grant a pardon self-evidently excluded such a possibility.

https://www.justsecurity.org/73539/why-a-self-pardon-is-not-constitutional/

That sounds like just the sort of distinction one might try to argue in front of a court...

I'm not even saying I disagree with the argument in your link (I'm agnostic). The point is clever lawyers could argue the opposite. Regarding the definition of words like "pardon", we just found out this week what a "machine gun" entails.

Arbitrage with https://manifold.markets/GordanKnott/what-will-trump-do-in-his-second-te

Would this include something like assassinating Putin?

@AlexanderMiller Are they opponents? 🤔

@AlexanderMiller no, only domestic ones count