Why did Manifold incorrectly predict the 2024 election?
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Too optimistic about Democrats
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Real money is a better indicator than play money
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Too heavy of a reliance on polling and forecasts
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It was a coinflip and Manifold was reasonable, sigh
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Echo chamber effects within the platform
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Underestimation of voter turnout impact
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Failure to account for changing voter demographics
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Insufficient weighting of economic indicators
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Influence of large traders skewing market prices
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Insufficient consideration of undecided voters
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Impact of widespread disinformation

Manifold was fairly incorrect in its predictions for the 2024 US presidential election. Why was that?

Manifold was considerably worse than real-money markets such as Polymarket, and very similar to forecasts like FiveThirtyEight and Nate Silver. It seemed to notably underestimate Trump's performance, especially in swing states (Manifold had Harris winning MI at about 65% on election day). I have noticed a very large sentiment in the Manifold community that is eager to disregard the accuracy of those who did make better predictions, oftentimes dismissing them as "lucky guesses". Is that really the case? Can we assume that Manifold will do better next time around, or has real-money betting taken over as the most reliable predictor for future elections?

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@traders The market has closed! Until 1/31, you can like or dislike any of my comments based on whether or not you felt they contributed to Manifold's incorrect prediction. At the end of the month, the three options whose comments have the largest net likes (likes-dislikes) will resolve YES. The remaining options will resolve NO. Thank you again for participating!

Impact of widespread disinformation

@vibhav What is meant by this? Is it something more like A) Disinformation caused Trump’s election, B) Disinformation gave a false impression of Harris’s chances, or something else?

@MikeElias Definitely B. This suggests disinformation created false impressions of who was in the lead, causing Manifold to predict incorrectly.

Insufficient consideration of undecided voters

Influence of large traders skewing market prices

Insufficient weighting of economic indicators

Failure to account for changing voter demographics

Underestimation of voter turnout impact

Echo chamber effects within the platform

It was a coinflip and Manifold was reasonable, sigh

Too heavy of a reliance on polling and forecasts

Real money is a better indicator than play money

Too optimistic about Democrats

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Inauguration tomorrow!

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12 days to inauguration

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I don’t doubt that there is a possibility Manifold was in fact correct in predicting that it was a toss up. However, what concrete evidence do we have to believe that it will be more reliable than real money markets in the future?

To answer the converse (why Polymarket did) - because of a random French whale that acquired more info at cost, for the potential gain

@barbarous I am not fully educated on what exactly happened here. Is such accurate information actually available at a cost?

@vibhav by "at cost" I mean he conducted his own survey using a method that is thought to be more accurate under preference falsification. I.e. instead of asking "who will you vote for?" he asked "who will your neighbour vote for?"

@barbarous very interesting. can this consistently be reliable or did it just work in this case? if the former, why are we not relying on methods like this to forecast?

@vibhav I don't really know, but he's ended up pushing the polymarket odds by a fair amount in the correct direction and won a lot of money. So it worked for him and it worked in this case.

He also had a strong hunch that polls and other models were still underestimating trump's advantage. That's not exactly a formal model that you can apply to every case, but the beauty of prediction markets is that you can incorporate information like that and have it pay off if you increased accuracy

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