Will Tumbles be late to pay back a loan?
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[image]Ladies and gentleman, I’m afraid it’s looking pretty joever. My balance is -731k. Once the loan markets resolve, counting my outstanding loans, I’ll be almost three million mana in the red. It’s been an honour meming with you all. To my investors/creditors, I’m sorry it ends this way. This was always going to end in either glory or disaster, and unfortunately it came to disaster. I’ll make a mini final report once the dust settles and markets finish resolving.
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I hope you're happy America
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@Tumbles I think I might actually make it 😆
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Yesterday I lost almost 100k mana, Donald Trump was inaugurated and immediately began acting as expected, my streamer man got credibly accused of sex crimes, and my bamboo shrimp died. WHAT A FUCKED UP DAY [image][image](Photos are off the shrimp's widow, he was at least twice as big)
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Resolves YES if @Tumbles is even slightly late to pay back any mana loan that they intentionally accepted. Any extensions must have been agreed upon in advance.

@Tumbles may choose to resolve this market NO if they don't owe any mana to other users. Once they do so, they will be prohibited from taking on any new loans for three months.

I will use this description as a ledger of what I owe and when I owe it. I will update it as appropriate. All amounts listed include any fees or interest associated with the loan. Dates listed are the final day during which payment is not late (PST -8:00).

Jan 31st 2025 - Ṁ51,000 @sophiawisdom

Jan 31st 2025 - Ṁ31,000 @CharlesLien
Jan 31st 2025 - Ṁ52,000 @Bayesian
August 31st 2025 - Ṁ39,000 @EBurk
Jan 7th 2026 - Ṁ269,000 @AmmonLam

Total: Ṁ442,000

Total loans previously paid off on time before Biden dropped out: 711,679 (short term loans not included)

Loans paid off or cleared since Biden dropped out: Ṁ741,000

Check out the Tumbles Financial Complex! 💸

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Game theory: Should this market sit at 50%?

In theory, if Tumbles ever finds himself in dire straights, and nobody is willing to loan him out any more mana for a near due debt, he could sell his NO position to 50% and arbitrage that liquidity into a coin flip market, since those typically resolve once per day and have quick turnaround. He could rally everybody to bet into one big chungus of a limit order at 50% odds. We'd all fight one big war at the end of the world as the mother of all Manifold memes.

If he wins the flip, he buys back some of his NO shares with whatever was left over after paying the piper's debts, and this glorious cycle continues.

If he busts on the coin flip, Tumbles would be dead in the water either way. What is there to lose?

Ergo, we should all bet this market up to 50% in anticipation of this move and extract the profit before Tumbles can. This only works so long as Tumbles holds a net NO position.

(I'm not sold on this argument myself. Is it flawed? If so, where?)

@Quroe Reverse game theory: Sometimes there is an agent who is not playing the same game as everyone else.

My plan was to pay up to 100k as a gift toward Tumbles's loans if at any point he got the [Tumbles's loans outstanding] - [Tumbles' current balance] below 100k. After he paid off the 6 January loans I thought for sure it was going to happen, because the outstanding loan amount was 134k and his balance was ~25k. Before he closed the gap, he took a new 269k loan and it looks like it will be a long, long time until he gets back to the same point again.

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@Quroe I have a problem burning mana on this market.

@snazzlePop I have a problem with arbitraging it. 😆

Yesterday I lost almost 100k mana, Donald Trump was inaugurated and immediately began acting as expected, my streamer man got credibly accused of sex crimes, and my bamboo shrimp died.

WHAT A FUCKED UP DAY

(Photos are off the shrimp's widow, he was at least twice as big)

@Tumbles :( hang in there

@Tumbles R.I.P. =(

(referring to the bamboo shrimp fellow, not your balance)

@Tumbles im sorry shrimp :(

If it makes you guys feel better he was a MAGA shrimp, I think wanting to see Trump's inauguration was the thing that kept him going up till then

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@Tumbles 1. lol at the maga shrimp comment. 2. who is the streamer im out of the loop lately 3. extremely sprry about the shrimp sorry to hear that boss

@No_uh The coomer gremlin (destiny). I don't know why anyone is surprised, he was always a sexual degenerate

@stardust if thats true and it was destiny (im not going to look it up my brain is poisoned enough with as online as i am already) then, i hate to say it but, this may be one of the only things were ever agree on blankspace lmao.

destiny has repeatedly demonstrated being a loser livestreamed online for people to see for many years now. 10+

@No_uh Source.

Appreciated. You don't have to be an Orthodox Christian to stand against degeneracy of this level.

@stardust @No_uh I personally don't appreciate acting like Destiny being a 'degenerate' or 'loser' means these allegations are nothing new. Go do a victory lap somewhere else, I'm not interested in using actual sex crimes as a jumping off point to discuss if recreational sex is immoral.

@Tumbles I won't carry on here. Not the time or place. but to be clear, I think Destiny is not a good guy (kinda far from it) for probably very very different reasons than blankspace lol. least of all cause hes bi or was in an open relationship or whatever.

dont want you to paint me any way, but if you are going to id like it to be a different color than the one you paint blankspace lmao

@Tumbles Lol?? Where did I mention recreational sex? Just because you can't keep such things out of your mind doesn't mean you should push it on me.

See, I know you have a reading comprehension problem, but I didn't say that his sex crimes are "nothing new", I said that they're more or less expected from a sexual degenerate like him, or "I don't know why anyone is surprised", and I linked a source.

Christianity derangement syndrome!

@Tumbles at least your bamboo shrimp didn't get accused of sex crimes 😔

@NivlacM Now that you mention it he did get naked and expose himself to the fish every couple months. It was disgusting, shrimply remolting

I'm starting to think I might not be very good at this 🤔

@Tumbles so sad I didn't see this market, I would've made so much profit

@Tumbles you just got a 30.5k payment from @houstonEuler (account deleted), was it a new loan or...?

@deagol I dont think it's a loan if you can't pay it back...

@deagol It was a gift from Houston on his way out of the site, very nice of them. They didn't indicate any big reason in particular to me why they left, but that they had been planning to for a while and their last question resolved.

@Tumbles I think her twitter posts pre-empting this question led me astray. I was getting the vibe from the earlier photo posting like a week before things were headed in the wrong direction.

also it did not help houston was very annoyed about the elon salute yesterday lol

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